Jacinda Ardern is over in the States at the moment, representing our country.
She's been our Prime Minister and the Labour Party leader for 4 years and 7 months to the day.
But 4 years, 9 months, and 27 days ago, she wasn't the Labour Leader.
Andrew Little was.
He took over the leadership from David Cunliffe in 2014, after Labour's disastrous election result.
Andrew Little's tenure from 2014-2017 is the focus of the latest episode of my podcast series: The Wilderness.
Little inherited a fractured, bitter, broken, broke, angry, unelectable party when he took over.
But his time at the helm saw him heal the wounds, and bridge the divisions.
Despite all his efforts though, the polls didn't move and he fell on his sword, passing the role to the shining star that was Jacinda Ardern.
The episode is called The Selfless Masterstroke because he put the party ahead of his own ambition to be Prime Minister.
We look at the rise of Little, and his highlights. And we also look at the controversies.
Andrew Little was the only one of the leaders during Labour's time in the wilderness to agree to an interview.
All the others either didn't respond or said no.
So kudos to Little for fronting and re-living this period of his political life.
It's a cracker episode - give it a listen.
It's on our website todayfm.co.nz click on podcasts, and click on The Wilderness.
It's also on Rova - our MediaWorks app.
It's up now. Eat your heart out.